Dec
2023
Monday, Dec 04, 2023
“Once I set myself a goal, I’m very
dedicated and will do everything in
my abilities to achieve it.” Radboud
University astronomer Marc
Klein Wolt boasts an impressive
track record of aerospace
achievements: from putting a
telescope behind the moon to his
involvement with the first ever
picture of a black hole. How does
he do it? And why? What’s pulling
him towards the limits of what we
know, pushing him to make the
most of his potential? Before he
takes offto Namibia - where he’s
working on a telescope for the
Event Horizon Telescope - we meet
Marc at his office in the astronomy
department of Nijmegen’s
Radboud University, where we
get a glimpse inside the mind of a
rockstar scientist.
Why are you building a telescope in
Namibia?
“We’re working on another telescope
for the Event Horizon Telescope, where
astronomers and scientists are building
and connecting telescopes from all over the
world to take pictures of black holes. So far,
we’ve been able to take pictures of not just
one, but two black holes – one in our own
galaxy, the Milky Way, and one in a more
distant galaxy. This is awesome, because
now we have tangible proof that black
holes actually exist. Not only do we have a
theory or a prediction, but we have actual
footage, we’ve got data: we have proven
Einstein right. Now we want to learn more
about them. In order to do so, we need more
telescopes, one of which will be in Namibia.”
What do you hope to learn?
“What we’re especially interested in, and
hoping to see, is how maer moves around a
black hole. The images we currently have are
comparable to pictures on a regular camera:
they’re a snapshot, showing us what a black
hole looks like at a certain point or moment
in time. What we’re trying to do right now,
can be compared to taking a picture with a
longer shutter speed. New telescopes, like
the one in Namibia, allow us to make longer
observations and to integrate these pictures,
maybe even into a movie. Can you imagine
seeing a black hole move? These movies
will help us understand the theory of black
holes, better than ever before.
And why’s that so important –
understanding a black hole?
“Because, the way I see it, black holes are
‘the place to be’ for physics and astronomy,
maybe even for science in general. They’re
one of the biggest mysteries in our
universe, a place where the force of nature
occurring on the largest of scales – like
gravitational theory – is combined with
that of the smallest – quantum mechanics.
By studying black holes, we’re studying
the fundamentals of our world. Through
theories, like the string theory, we have an
idea about the way nature works, and we
can make assumptions and predictions. But we won’t know if any of that is true until
we have proof. We need these pictures and
movies of a black hole to verify whether our
theory is correct, which allows to get a beer
and clearer image of our world – and maybe
understand ourselves a bit better, too.”
Do you think we’ll eventually be able to
understand everything?
“Yes, I do. Some people believe in God.
I believe that there must be a logical
explanation to everything. Why should we
accept a limit to what we can understand
or know? I want to understand everything.
I want to understand why we see things the
way we see them, why they work the way they
do. I want to understand more about nature,
physics, and the world around us. I truly
believe that, if we want to fully comprehend
our universe, we need to keep pushing
the boundaries of our knowledge and
technology. That’s what science is all about
to me – it’s an important reason for me to do
what I do.”
How do you manage – trying to
understand everything for a living?
“It’s all about dedication for me. I want to
challenge myself, set a goal and then go for
it. And once I do, I dedicate almost my life to
it, and I’ll do everything I can to achieve it.
Achieving a goal is one of the most beautiful
things there is to me. I believe that’s my
sweet spot, where I feel like I’m making the
most of myself and my abilities. And once
I’ve achieved something, I’ll remain involved
in some way, but I also always feel like
moving on to the next: to set a new goal and
create something new. This way of working
fulfills me with so much energy - and being
able to share that energy with others is what
makes it all worth to me.”
So, you’re always on the go, moving
from one milestone to the next,
creating new things. Do you ever take
a break?
“A couple of years ago, I was prey much
forced to stop. I was working in a more
corporate seing and not enjoying myself,
so I set myself a goal: I wanted to get into
aerospace engineering and work on a
mission to the moon. And then that mission
actually happened and we succeeded. Not
just that, because shortly after, my team was
also involved in taking the first ever picture
of a black hole – which is like Nobel Prize
level science. So I was checking a lot of my
top boxes there. This had me wondering:
what’s next? I had to take a moment to
stop and think, not just as a professional or
innovator, but also as a person: who am I and
where do I want to go next?”
How did you figure that out?
“I was asked to lead a couple of big projects
at the Radboud University, such as seing
up their Radboud Radio Lab together
with Heino Falcke, where I also got the
responsibility of managing and leading a
group of people. This came with a set of new
challenges, like maintaining my position in
the academical hierarchy or learning how
to present myself and fit into the role of
director – which I didn’t know how to do. I
sat at the table with company boards and
aerospace leaders worldwide, and they saw
me as the director of an important research
institute, but I didn’t feel like I was. It
suddenly hit me that the person I thought I
was, no longer matched who I was becoming
or the way I appeared to the outside world.”
Who did you feel like you were?
“To be completely honest, I still felt a bit
like ‘Marc, the boy from Enschede.’ I was
always a bit of a dreamer, but never really
the smartest kid in school. I had to put in a
lot of work to pass my exams and make it to the next grade. And although things started to get
better in high school and I eventually developed an
interest for astronomy, that mindset and some of
the insecurity it came with – stayed on me. That’s
why it took me a while to understand and discover
that I have something to bring to the table, too.”
So, what is it that Marc Klein Wolt brings to
the table?
“When I was studying astrophysics at the
University of Amsterdam, I learned that I was never
going to be ‘the best scientist,’ but that
I do recognise what’s needed to make something
work, to realise it, and then actually go through
with it. I believe this also has a lot to do with my
social skills: I almost naturally know how to pick
the people that seem fit for the job, bring them
together, motivate them and spark that fire within.
That’s how I create, and I also think that is what I’m
good at - and it certainly is what I love doing the
most.”
What do you love about it
so much?
“I want to make people shine. By motivating
people and empowering them to do the things
they do best, you can make somebody shine. I’ve
learned that, if you do so, things start to flow
naturally, almost by themselves. As an example,
I never have to remind anybody about any
upcoming deadlines. My team is often done before
we reach a deadline, because we all feel that we’re
doing this together and we all have the same
goal in mind. And while doing so, everybody is
recognised for who they are and for their skills,
they own something and feel responsible. I believe
that’s where you can make the difference, and
really make somebody shine.”
And what is making you shine?
“Namibia. Something about that country just got
under my skin. It’s a combination of untouched,
raw nature and warm-hearted and kind people
– it’s truly unique. And when I’m in Namibia I
can talk to children in primary schools and high
schools, university students and the vice president
of the country - all in the same day! Being able to
do so, and witnessing the impact and meaning of
our work to their community means a lot to me.
We’re not just building a telescope there: we’re
also supporting them in their aerospace journey
and to share our love for aerospace and science
with them.”
“This is truly one of the greatest gifts I’ve ever
experienced, during both my career and my life.
I can’t wait to go over there again next week.”